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Jure Čuhalev se je na Wireless Community Weekend 2010 spraševal kaj povezuje vse brezžične skupnosti, potem ko imamo osnovno infrastrukturo/omrežje postavljeno in v sklopu tega vprašanja organiziral odprto &#8220;okroglo mizo&#8221; oz. odprti mikrofon. To so njegovi &#8220;izvlečki&#8221;:
 
We’ve built the network: what now?
Services

radio and video streaming http://rund.freifunk.net or http://www.livestream.com/dubnighttv/
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<p><strong><a href="http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/">Jure Čuhalev</a></strong> se je na <strong><a href="http://wiki.freifunk.net/Wireless_Community_Weekend_2010">Wireless Community Weekend 2010</a></strong> spraševal kaj povezuje vse brezžične skupnosti, potem ko imamo osnovno infrastrukturo/omrežje postavljeno in v sklopu tega vprašanja organiziral odprto &#8220;okroglo mizo&#8221; oz. odprti mikrofon. To so njegovi &#8220;izvlečki&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote class="zemanta-reblog-quote" style="margin: 1em 3em;"><p><span class="attribution zemanta-reblog-cite" style="padding: 1em 0pt; text-align: right; display: block; width: 100%;"> </span></p>
<p><strong>We’ve built the network: what now?</strong></p>
<p>Services</p>
<ul>
<li>radio and video streaming <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/rund.freifunk.net');" href="http://rund.freifunk.net">http://rund.freifunk.net</a> or <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.livestream.com');" href="http://www.livestream.com/dubnighttv/">http://www.livestream.com/dubnighttv/</a></li>
<li>Voice over IP <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/wiki.ninux.org');" href="http://wiki.ninux.org/Elenco_Telefonico_rete_VoIP_di_ninux.org">http://wiki.ninux.org/Elenco_Telefonico_rete_VoIP_di_ninux.org</a></li>
<li>Public web Cams (over the roofs, bird nest’s – very popular in Berlin)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Discovery</strong></p>
<p><strong>Splash screen:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>They don’t really work in most experience. People don’t read them or respond to them.</li>
<li>Intercepts connections and makes a bad experience</li>
<li>Problems when being on dual stack</li>
<li>If you have it: don’t mention money as people will go away (even if just for donations).  Explain what will happen after they press the login button.</li>
<li>Use SSID as name that you want to announce (use WWW so people know it’s a website)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>mDNS:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Service discovery, networks</li>
<li>Music sharing services (iTunes like sharing (DAAP))</li>
<li>Serverless chat</li>
<li>Good resource: <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/wiki.ninux.org');" href="http://wiki.ninux.org/ZeroconfServices">http://wiki.ninux.org/ZeroconfServices</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Kiberpipa.net is running:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Video streaming from Cyberpipe (lectures – <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/video.kiberpipa.org');" href="http://video.kiberpipa.org">http://video.kiberpipa.org</a>)</li>
<li>VPN for end users</li>
<li>Local irc server with SSL suport (irc.sioff.net)</li>
<li>VPS to run and learn about Linux (all the servers are accessible inside network + ipv6 only connectivity from the outside world)</li>
<li>Multiple-storages (NAS) for sharing stuff/run your own FTP server</li>
<li>Peering connectivity to other Freifunk networks/hackerspaces</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Other services that people are running</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Used books</li>
<li>Weather report</li>
<li>Blog server</li>
<li>Radio streaming</li>
<li>DNS servers that do all the fancy remapping (service to all the users)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Wishlist:</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<ul>
<li>WE NEED working SPLASH SCREENS <img class="wp-smiley" src="http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)"></li>
<li>nodes running their own webserver</li>
<li>automatic name registration system (web site)</li>
<li>alternative domain names redirection (custom zones)</li>
<li>internet caching services (uncensored)</li>
<li>decentralized community radio station / shared radio schedule (gsoc project this year): <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/radiomate.org');" href="http://radiomate.org">http://radiomate.org</a> and <a onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/fusoradio.net');" href="http://fusoradio.net">http://fusoradio.net</a></li>
<li>game servers (freeciv works!)</li>
<li>mesh-partys (like lan party)</li>
<li>local search engines</li>
<li>good service discovery service. What is the most common way to announce new service around the whole network: mDNS?</li>
</ul>
<p>Want to share your experience in running services on your wireless networks? Share it in the comments.</p>
<p><span class="attribution zemanta-reblog-cite" style="padding: 1em 0pt; text-align: right; display: block; width: 100%;"><br />
<a href="http://www.jurecuhalev.com/blog/2010/05/15/we-built-the-network-what-now/">We’ve built the network: now where do we get the content?</a>, May 2010<br />
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<p>Izkaže se da omrežje Kiberpipa.net že zdaj ponuduja marsikatero storitev znotraj svojega omrežja .. </p>
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		<title>IPv6 zgodbe iz podzemlja in zraka ..</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 22:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Verjetno ste tako na dopisnem seznamu, kot blogu uspeli prebrati, da ponuja Kiberpipa že dlje časa tudi dual-stack IPv4 in IPv6 povezljivost na brezžičnem omrežju (žal za enkrat samo v okolice Kersnikove 6 na SSIDju Kiberpipa) in se lahko pohvali, da uporabniki omrežja že slabih 15% dnevne količine tranzitnega IP prometa naredijo po IPv6 protokolu.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verjetno ste tako na <a href="https://lists.frubsd.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lj-wlan">dopisnem seznamu</a>, kot <a href="http://kiberpipa.net">blogu</a> uspeli prebrati, da ponuja <a href="http://www.kiberpipa.org"><strong>Kiberpipa</strong></a> že dlje časa tudi dual-stack <strong>IPv4</strong> in <strong><a class="zem_slink freebase/en/ipv6" title="IPv6" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6">IPv6</a></strong> povezljivost na brezžičnem omrežju (žal za enkrat samo v okolice Kersnikove 6 na SSIDju <em>Kiberpipa</em>) in se lahko pohvali, da uporabniki omrežja že slabih 15% dnevne količine tranzitnega <a class="zem_slink freebase/en/internet_protocol" title="Internet Protocol" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol">IP</a> prometa naredijo po IPv6 protokolu.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://kiberpipa.net/wp-content/uploads/dnevni-promet.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-211 aligncenter" title="dnevni-promet" src="http://kiberpipa.net/wp-content/uploads/dnevni-promet.png" alt="" width="500" height="135" /></a><em><strong>Povprečni ponedeljekov (agregiran &#8211; IPv4 + IPv6) promet na SSID: Kiberpipa</strong></em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://kiberpipa.net/wp-content/uploads/10.14.128.2_ipv6-day.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-212 aligncenter" title="10.14.128.2_ipv6-day" src="http://kiberpipa.net/wp-content/uploads/10.14.128.2_ipv6-day.png" alt="" width="500" height="135" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><strong><em>Povprečni ponedeljkov promet na IPv6 protokolu / SSID: Kiberpipa</em></strong></p>
<p>Prejšnji teden se je preskusil tudi &#8220;massive-deploy&#8221; dual-stacka (IPv4 + IPv6) tudi na <a class="zem_slink freebase/en/virtual_private_network" title="Virtual private network" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network">VPN</a> povezavah za končne uporabnike, ki so tako ali druge povezani z Kiberpipo ali Kiberpipa.net omrežjem in se v omrežje povezujejo na daljavo. Rezultati pričakovani! Yay!</p>
<p><a href="http://kiberpipa.net/wp-content/uploads/MinefieldScreenSnapz007.png"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-213" title="MinefieldScreenSnapz007" src="http://kiberpipa.net/wp-content/uploads/MinefieldScreenSnapz007-300x241.png" alt="" width="300" height="241" /></a></p>
<p>V zelo eksperimentalne namene smo testirali tudi &#8220;IPv6 only&#8221; povezljivost preko translacijskih rešitev (<a href="http://lucastomicki.net/naptd.download.php">NAT-TPd</a>, ter <a href="http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca/">NAT64 gateway</a>) in naleteli na čisto preveč problemov in nezadovoljnih uporabnikov brezžičnega omrežja.</p>
<p>Toliko za enkrat na to temo; naslednjič pa verjetno sledi že oglašanje z kakšne od Ljubljanskih streh :)</p>
<p><strong>Glej tudi:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://test-ipv6.com/">Test-IPv6.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2010-05/v6hints.html">Two Simple Hints for Dual Stack Server</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://video.kiberpipa.org/media/POT_Jan_Zorz-Ali_bo_prehod_na_IPv6_enostaven/play.html">go6.si predavanje v Kiberpipi na temo IPv6 za končne uporabnike &#8220;Ali bo prehod internet omrežja na IPv6 enostaven&#8221;</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.go6.si">Zavod go6.si</a></li>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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Kiberpipa je eden od mnogih _hacker space-ov_, tako v Ljubljani kot v širši okolici sosednjih držav. Že od samega začetka se pojavljajo težnje po sodelovanju z njimi, tako na tehnološkem kot tudi na vsebinskem področju. Praktične izkušnje preteklih sodelovanj so pokazale, da sama povezljivost v internet pogosto ni dovolj, da bi [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.kiberpipa.org"><strong>Kiberpipa</strong></a> je eden od mnogih _<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackerspace">hacker space</a>-ov_, tako v <strong>Ljubljani</strong> kot v širši okolici sosednjih držav. Že od samega začetka se pojavljajo težnje po sodelovanju z njimi, tako na tehnološkem kot tudi na vsebinskem področju. Praktične izkušnje preteklih sodelovanj so pokazale, da sama povezljivost v internet pogosto ni dovolj, da bi se lahko razne omrežne naprave, strežniki in drugi interaktivni kosi programske opreme dobro pogovarjali med seboj. Problem se pojavi predvsem zaradi varnostnih omejitev, ki jih diktirajo tako požarni zidovi kot tudi kabli v vsaki posamezni organizaciji.</p>
<p>Kiberpipa.net si je za cilj postavila tudi povezovanje sorodnih organizacij. To na eni strani poteka s pomočjo brezžičnih mesh točk, na drugi strani pa na čisto omrežnem nivoju kjer se trudi postaviti omrežje nad trenutnim internetom. <strong>Kaj to v praksi pomeni?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="../wp-content/uploads/network-kiberpipa.net_.png"><img class="aligncenter" title="network-kiberpipa.net" src="../wp-content/uploads/network-kiberpipa.net_-300x240.png" alt="" width="300" height="240" /></a></p>
<p>Recimo, da želimo prenašati video iz ene lokacije na drugo. V primeru, da sta obe organizaciji povezavi v skupno omrežje lahko administrator omrežja na preprost način omogoči, da se oba potrebna dela omrežja vidita in prenašata video preko varne povezave. Hkrati pa lahko npr. gostujoči umetnik dostopa do svojih računalnikov v domači mreži brez nepotrebnega odpiranja lokalne mreže na internet.</p>
<p>Drugi, bolj aktivistični pogled, na trenutne plane pa je lahko viden kot odziv strokovnjakov na napovedane cenzure interneta<em> (cf. <a href="http://gorazd.bozic.org/2010/01/05/cenzura-prometa-na-stranska-vrata/ ">http://gorazd.bozic.org/2010/01/05/cenzura-prometa-na-stranska-vrata/ </a>)</em>, ki bodo sčasoma vedno bolj omejili naše zmožnosti za delovanje in povezovanje z drugimi, ki morda ne bodo vedno najbolj naklonjeni vladajočim silam.</p>
<p><span id="more-144"></span>Spremembe na omrežni infrastrukturi, ki so se zgodile ta teden v Kiberpipi so prvi korak v novo ureditev: popis omreženih računalnikov in mrežne opreme,  strukturirano dodeljevanje IP naslovnega prostora in plan potrebne rekonfiguracije. Kot zanimivost, še seznam Kiberpipa subnetov na <a href="http://wiki.kiberpipa.net/subnet:kiberpipa">wikiju</a>.</p>
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Okrnjena ekipa Kiberpipe, se je letos (ponovno) odpravila v Berlin na Chaos Communication Congress (26C3). O najbolj zanimivem in relevantnem dogajanju tukaj bomo sproti še pisali, verjetno pa kaj več povedali morda v obliki kakšnega predavanja v Kiberpipi. Do takrat si pa kaj več o programu lahko preberete na naslednjem linku.
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<p>Okrnjena ekipa <a href="http://www.kiberpipa.org">Kiberpipe</a>, se je letos (ponovno) odpravila v Berlin na <a class="zem_slink freebase/en/chaos_communication_congress" title="Chaos Communication Congress" rel="wikipedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_Communication_Congress">Chaos Communication Congress</a> (<strong><a href="http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/wiki/Welcome">26C3</a></strong>). O najbolj zanimivem in relevantnem dogajanju tukaj bomo sproti še pisali, verjetno pa kaj več povedali morda v obliki kakšnega predavanja v Kiberpipi. Do takrat si pa kaj več o programu lahko preberete na <a href="http://events.ccc.de/congress/2009/wiki/Schedule">naslednjem linku</a>.</p>
<p>Za enkrat lahko samo povemo, da je <strong>26C3</strong> že razprodan oz. 4 dnevne karte ni več moč kupiti; za razliko od dosedanjih CCC so karte posle že pred samo uradno odtvoritvijo 27.12. in je bilo večino kart prodanih že v predprodaji v noči iz 26.12. in 27.12. <a href="http://events.ccc.de/2009/12/27/here-be-dragons/">Takega navala še ne pomnijo</a>.</p>
<p>.. toliko za enkrat, ker Internet še ni samoumevna dobrina v tem momentu :) Se pa fantje z NOC centra trudijo.</p>
<p>P.S. Android telefoni so v teh ekstremnih pogojih cisto neuporabni :(</p>
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